the SINGULAR truth with Patrick j miron--It is also evident that my understanding of God limiting Protestant understanding is too correct.
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Protestant
Theology & Catholic Doctrines
Exposed
to cover & discover the “Naked
Truth“...
Catholic
responses to the Booklet:
“Answers
to my Catholic Friends” by
Thomas F. Heinze
Part 2
A
Catholic reply to Protestant “[mis]- Understandings” Part
2
“Do
the Bread and Wine Become Christ Body and Blood”?
My
dear friends in Christ,
Allow me to
please set a platform for this part of the discussion. I do not exaggerate one
iota when I claim
that
this topic, while wrongly understood, is nevertheless a well thought out and
formulated thesis. It is draconian in nature because it attempts to place a
STAKE into the very heart, body, mind
and soul of the entirety of our Catholic beliefs. If one is unable to defend
this issue, of Christ “Real Presence,
one is unable to defend Catholism in total.
They win;
we lose! …
WHY? is
it said-- or practiced that
1324 The Eucharist is "the source and summit of the
Christian life." "The other sacraments,
and indeed all ecclesiastical ministries and works of the apostolate, are bound
up with the Eucharist and are oriented toward it. For in the blessed
Eucharist is contained the whole spiritual good of the Church, namely Christ
himself, our Pasch." [Sacrifice]
1074 "The liturgy is the summit toward which the activity of
the Church is directed; it is also the font from which all her power flows."
It is therefore the privileged place
for catechizing the People of God. "Catechesis is intrinsically linked with the
whole of liturgical and sacramental activity, for it is in the sacraments,
especially in the Eucharist, that Christ Jesus works in fullness for the
transformation of men."
Catholics
Reply:
I
shall include my comments directly under his, comments, in order to make it an
easy reference to each specific point that Thomas has raised.
This
is indeed a well thought out position.
BUT is proves
clearly and without discussion that it is based ONLY on only human
logic.
No
credit is given to Jesus as a all-
Good-God; able to do ANY GOOD THING.
If
in FACT, the Catholic position is correct; then this becomes the GREATEST
POSSIBLE GOOD in the entire history of the Universe.
I’m
finding it beneficial to keep reminding myself that Thomas too, like us is a
Baptized Christian.
A
Brother in Christ, and that this is not a direct assault on us
personally.
It
is evident the he loves, and in his own way is serving God.
It is also evident that my
understanding of God limiting Protestant understanding is too
correct.
While
the arguments are well thought out, and a bit different than the normal
Protestant explanation; based on John
6: selected verses; 35-69,
there clearly is lacking the depth of
understanding of God’s very Nature
and
the precise reason for human existence and how they necessarily relate as
expressed within the Bible itself. God’s basis for imposing such a penalty
is::
Matt. 25: 27-29 …“So take the talent from him, and give it to
him who has the ten talents. …
For to every
one who has will more be given,
and he will have abundance;
but from him who has not, even what he has will be
taken away”
All those who
are “given more “ [Baptized in the CC], will
be held to a far more critical evaluation by God.,
as the Holy Spirit is
AVAILABLE to them for guidance.
To guide
and to influence our decision God makes the following Commitments:
1. God becomes man like us so that we will
not fear Him. The choice to become a HELPLESS baby; relying on a human mother
and foster father for every need beyond PROFOUND. How can anyone fear a baby?
[And yet King Herod did tried to kill the baby Jesus].
2. Then to choose to suffer and dies in the
manner He did is a continuation of His earthly Ministry. When Jesus tells us
“take up your cross and FOLLOW ME; [five times repeated in the NT], it is a
literal, from His heart plea, and a literal command. A GREAT part of God
becoming man was to MODEL for us how we MUST live our lives, what we too must
do and expect. From love, to giving of self, to suffering with Christ. To
learning and obeying ALL that he commands and the those that He, Christ; GOD!,
has chosen to aid and direct us. That so many professed God lovers and
believers MISS this key teaching has to do with their degree of culpability in
choosing a “man-made; human modified” set of faith beliefs than those taught
and demanded by God; and for the most part very clearly articulated in the
bible.
3. The third evidence I personally find the
most compelling.
What still remains [almost] a mystery for me
is why so many
“God believing;” .. “Bible church” people deny it. The “Real Presence of Christ
Himself” in Catholic Holy Communion.
The reason is they DO NOT HAVE GOD”S
CHOSEN GUIDES,
because they knowingly or unknowingly have done the same thing
[in nature of]
as the Jews who accepted Barabbas: the thief, murder, and rapist
at the prompting of false “religious leaders”
over a KNOWN innocent-God
Himself rather than accept the multitude
of evidence, miracles, charity, kindness, truth, of a Loving God.
Christ
decision to remain literally with us ought not be a surprise. Look what God had
already done for us.
He became a mortal man [while retaining His full
Divinity],
and permitted himself to endure the most painful and humiliating
death known to that society at the time.
WHY would he NOT do even more? Why is
that so hard to accept?
Because it REQUIRES PERFECT Faith; not the faith
cultivated by mortal men, who insist on being able to understanding it; or
rejecting it.
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