Protestant Theology & Catholic Doctrines
Exposed to cover & discover the “Naked Truth“...
Catholic responses to the Booklet:
“Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze … Part 5b
A Catholic reply to Protestant “[mis]- Understandings” Part 5b
DEVIDED INTO 3 SEPARATE LESSONS
A friendly word of caution to our non-Catholic friends
(Ed-note-)
patrick j miron might do some research and discover who the people that ST- Paul was talking about. as to who were these false apostles? ) --
{instead of extrapolating that scripture more than 1,500 years later}
romans 8;14-16-The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God.
(Ed-note-)
patrick j miron might do some research and discover who the people that ST- Paul was talking about. as to who were these false apostles? ) --
{instead of extrapolating that scripture more than 1,500 years later}
Patrick j miron's mis-use of scripture is notable-
romans 8;14-16-The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God.
2Cor.11:13 to 15 “For such men are false apostles,
[pjm-NOTE:
There can logically only be One Truth per precise issue.
What are the odds that the truth didn’t happen for 1, 500 YEARS after the Bible had been written?]
deceitful workmen,
disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
And no wonder,
for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness.
[Perhaps unknowingly]
Their end will correspond to their deeds.”
[pjm-NOTE:
There can logically only be One Truth per precise issue.
What are the odds that the truth didn’t happen for 1, 500 YEARS after the Bible had been written?]
deceitful workmen,
disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
And no wonder,
for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness.
[Perhaps unknowingly]
Their end will correspond to their deeds.”
The Bible never infers that that any saints, living or dead, sympathize with us more than God does. … This is a irrelevant observation.
Paul speaks directly to and about those he understands are doing all that is required to become saints. He praises there example and ask others to emulate them.
Catholics do not so much prayer to Saints [as THROUGH them to God],
Paul speaks directly to and about those he understands are doing all that is required to become saints. He praises there example and ask others to emulate them.
Catholics do not so much prayer to Saints [as THROUGH them to God],
NOT because they are more sympathetic than God;
No, we
No, we
Catholics pray THROUGH (saints)
them because
they STAND IN
THE VERY PRESENCE OF GOD,
Patrick j miron delusional belief #2832
---------------------and then add to our prayers, to
Patrick j miron delusional belief #2832
---------------------and then add to our prayers, to
there own on our behalf.]-----------------------
Gee i wonder why that's not really in the bible-- scripture that they "ADD" our prayers to their prayers"
oh wait let's re- interpret the bible scripture to our inching ears
ED- note
oh wait let's re- interpret the bible scripture to our inching ears
Heb. 12: 1 “Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, [SAINTS in heaven] let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus the pioneer and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.”
Tob.12: 15 “I am Raphael, one of the seven holy [Arch] angels [Saints and Angels are considered here to be of similar class] who present the prayers of the saints and enter into the presence of the glory of the Holy One."
2 Tim. 1: 16-18 Paul Prays for the dead: 16 May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, for he often refreshed me; he was not ashamed of my chains, but when he arrived in Rome he searched for me eagerly and found me-- may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day--and you well know all the service he rendered at Ephesus.”
1Mac.12:11 “We therefore remember you constantly on every occasion, both in our feasts and on other appropriate days, at the sacrifices which we offer and in our prayers, as it is right and proper to remember brethren”
Christ Himself tells us to whom we should pray.
Matt.7:7-8 “Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
Do Protestants Believe in the Saints ? Yes BUT, not the same understanding of the term as Catholics have.
WHY don’t Protestants pray to saints? … Because the bible tells us not too [“because they are idols.”]
“To answer the Catholic argument that “saints do answer prayers” with miracles, we must respond that spiritual manifestations [including miracles] can come from two different places: God, or the Devil and his demons.” …
Patrick j Miron delusional opinion #1,289
THIS FRIENDS IS A SPIRITUAL IMPOSSIBILITY. JUST AS GOD CANNOT CAUSE EVIL DIRECTLY; SATAN IS LIMITED BY GOD IN WHAT HE CAN accomplish IN GOD’S NAME.
Patrick j Miron delusional opinion #1,289
THIS FRIENDS IS A SPIRITUAL IMPOSSIBILITY. JUST AS GOD CANNOT CAUSE EVIL DIRECTLY; SATAN IS LIMITED BY GOD IN WHAT HE CAN accomplish IN GOD’S NAME.
"And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent. Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods." —Exodus 7:10-12
patrick j miron delusional opinion #787
While Satan can cause UNNATURAL phenomenon to happen;
he cannot cause good to happen
in order to deceive those who are and strive to be good.;
which is the point missed by our Brother Thomas …
God’s Saints always and every time who have miracles performed THROUGH THEM BY GOD, always and every time do so for a good. This follows the example set by Christ Himself while He was on earth.
which is the point missed by our Brother Thomas …
God’s Saints always and every time who have miracles performed THROUGH THEM BY GOD, always and every time do so for a good. This follows the example set by Christ Himself while He was on earth.
Matt. 10: 1-8 “And he called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every infirmity. The names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zeb'edee, and John his brother; Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; Simon the Cananaean, and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And preach as you go, saying, `The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay.”
These same powers and authority granted to the Apostles continue to flow through His one Church in order to fulfill God’s mandate to “teach the whole world” Mt. 28:19-20. …John 17: 18-19 “As thou didst send me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. [WITH MY GODLY POWERS AND AUTHORITY] And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be consecrated in truth”
We shall begin our Catholic Response; exposing “The NAKED TRUTH”.
God and truth are on the side of the only set of Faith beliefs found in the New Covenant
; for the newly “Chosen People” of His one and only Catholic Church, with His One and only One, set of faith beliefs.
FACTS: According to Patrick J Miron
1.Patrick j miron opinion # 4123
Only Peter and the CC through him have been GRANTED the “keys”
[ALL THAT IS NECESSARY for one’s own salvation]
by Jesus Himself in person…
Matt. 16:15-19
{ED note- patrick j miron seem to be in direct conflict with the scriptures}
Continuing with Patrick j miron commentary facts
{ED note- patrick j miron seem to be in direct conflict with the scriptures}
John 1:12 - King James Bible Online
www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/JOhn-1-12/Jul 2, 2010 – John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: ... from the ...- [PDF]
“HE CAME UNTO HIS OWN” “HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT” “AS ...
www.bereanbiblesociety.org/.../HE%20CAME%20UNTO%20HIS%2...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
“But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name.” Only receivers and believers become ... John 1:12 KJV - But as many as received him, to them - Bible Gateway
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1%3A12&version...But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his.John 1:12 NKJV - But as many as received Him, to them He - Bible ...
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1%3A12&version...But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His.John 1:12 - To As Many As Received Him
www.bible.ca/ef/expository-john-1-12.htmJohn 1:12, But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: (John 1:12, KJV). As I was ..."As Many As Received Him"
www.jesus-is-savior.com/BTP/Dr_Curtis.../as_many_as_received.htmHe came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe ...As Many As Received Him -John 1:12 - by Will Kinney
www.sovereignword.org/.../190-as-many-as-received-him-john-112-...In John 1:11-13 we read: "He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God ...John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to ...
www.godvine.com/bible/John/1-12John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Continuing with Patrick j miron commentary facts
2. The term “church” was first introduced by Jesus Himself in Matt. 16:18 “And I [Jesus] tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,” [SINGULAR]
3. Therefore it is a FACT that every reference to “church and churches” contained in the Bible, must and Do reference ONLY to today’s Catholic Church. The ONLY “church” in the entire world when the bible was completely written.
{ED note- did patrick j miron completely convince you now?}
Patrick j Miron delusion commentary and lie #654
{ED note- did patrick j miron completely convince you now?}
Patrick j Miron delusion commentary and lie #654
lie--4. No where in the entire Bible, either explicitly or implicitly did God EVER approve of ANY set of teachings, or ANY “other church or Faith” other than the RCC [and the 23 branches aligned with Her]
ED- note - of the following
John said to Jesus, "Teacher, we saw someone using your name to cast out demons, ... we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him,
... a common exorcist, could be able to work a miracle in Christ's name; we may ... in which he and some of his fellow disciples were concerned, and which he ...
ED- note - of the following
Mark 9:38 "Teacher," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons ...
bible.cc/mark/9-38.htm
John said to Jesus, "Teacher, we saw someone using your name to cast out demons, ... we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him,
... a common exorcist, could be able to work a miracle in Christ's name; we may ... in which he and some of his fellow disciples were concerned, and which he ...
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Luke 9:49 "Master," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in ...
bible.cc/luke/9-49.htm
John said to Jesus, "Master, we saw someone using your name to cast out ... we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, ... we saw some one casting out demons in thy name, and we forbad him, ... 9:43-50 This prediction of Christ's sufferings was plain enough, but the disciples would not ... Whoever Is Not Against Us Is For Us
www.alfredplacechurch.org.uk/Sermons/mark50.htm
... said John, 'we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, ...
"Do not stop that man from casting our demons," Jesus said. ... So here was an anonymous man labouring in the name of Christ, a true disciple, and he ... Paul wrote these words, "It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry ...
Mark 9:39 "Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a ...
bible.cc/mark/9-39.htm
But Jesus said, "Don't stop him, because no one who works a miracle in my name can ... There are men calling themselves Christians who seem to look with doubt and ... with, who might be casting out devils in his name, giving this as a reason for it; ... "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, ...These people Jesus did not condemn --christian denominations- who were applying the principles he taught..
Now -----Continuing with the Patrick j miron commentary-------------------
5. Therefore what Thomas and protestant denominations seem to have done is violate the very code of the Bible, by denial of God’s actual and real teaching, or simply not understanding them, and proliferate “faiths” designed by mortal men, based on convenience, ease of worship, and ONLY human-logic; who it appears think that they know more; or know better than Jesus Christ Himself.
The ONLY set of faith beliefs actually given by God, Inspired by God, Protected by God and warranted by Jesus Himself. Mt. 16:15-19; Mt. 28:16-20; John 14:16-17; John 17:15-19; and John 20:19-22... And in John 15 and 19 Jesus specifically transfers His Power and His Authority to His CC; and never; ever to anyone else can this be said of. “As the Father has sent ME; so to I God send YOU!”(pjm) “My Catholic] Church“. delusion #8932
The ONLY set of faith beliefs actually given by God, Inspired by God, Protected by God and warranted by Jesus Himself. Mt. 16:15-19; Mt. 28:16-20; John 14:16-17; John 17:15-19; and John 20:19-22... And in John 15 and 19 Jesus specifically transfers His Power and His Authority to His CC; and never; ever to anyone else can this be said of. “As the Father has sent ME; so to I God send YOU!”(pjm) “My Catholic] Church“. delusion #8932
6. For more than ONE THOUSAND YEARS the only Christian-“church” that existed was today’s Catholic Church.
Ed-s Note
when Patrick J Miron invents "facts" it is one way to see his "Delusional" interests in persuading the reader to swallow "this particular lie"
Ed-s Note
when Patrick J Miron invents "facts" it is one way to see his "Delusional" interests in persuading the reader to swallow "this particular lie"
ED. Note-
todays roman catholic church is not the same as the church Paul or James or math, mark or John wrote of in the bible , or Acts or that matter.
a big change was in 325 ad- when constantine took over the church.
Constantine the Great (Latin: Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus Augustus;[3] c. 27 February 272[2] – 22 May 337), also known as Constantine I or Saint Constantine,[4] was Roman Emperor from 306 to 337. Well known for being the first Roman emperor to convert to Christianity,[
Now on with -- other erroneous facts and presentation with patrick j Miron
7. The NT alone provides more than One HUNDRED proofs of Only One God; Only His One set of beliefs, in and through His only One Catholic Church. And YES, I can provide the list.
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